Tom Long on God and The Suffering of Innocents

These are my notes at the opening keynote of the Mo Ranch Men’s Conference on 4 May 2012

Keynote Tom Long
Has authored or co-authored 17 books
Baylor calls him one of the best 10 preachers in America

“on being a Christian” By Hans Kuhn
– being a Christian is a very hard thing – little Presbyterians are not growing up to be big Presbyterians as much as they used to

What are the Christians with the megaphones saying?

MY THOUGHT: YOUTUBE PRESENTS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US ALL TO HAVE A MEGAPHONE

Story of earthquake in Lisbon Portugal Nov 1. 1755?
– 9:40 am all saints day
10,000 – 50,000 people died that day
– changed the way people thought about God and suffering

Why Lisbon: 1st major world disaster after “The Enlightenment”
– before this, people during a disaster would ask “What is God trying to teach us about?”
– most people realized something was wrong about the way we thought about God

Newton said there was slippage in his formulas

La Pleias wrote about the creation but didn’t mention the creator
– Napoleon asked him
– he said “I have no need for that hypothesis”

Leibniz – said God imagined every possibility of all permutations and picked the best of all of them
– Lisbon cured people from that we of thinking

Problem we have all thought about: There is a God, He is loving and compassionate, he is all powerful, there is innocent suffering
– some say that is a philosophical and mathematical problem which demands a philosophical and mathematical answer

Is God good?
– is God all powerful

Louis Smeads wrote in “The Christian Century”
– story of losing a child together

The problem of innocent suffering
– a challenge to rethink our theology

Rabbi Kushner’s book “Why Do Bad Things Happen to Good People”
– he rejects “the bromides” that people often say at times like this
– Kushner interpreted that verse that God is doing the best he can, but he can’t handle the power of evil
– he rejects the phrase “God is all powerful”
– cost of that is very high – Kushner says evil comes from Fate (that makes a 2nd God called Fte)

St Augustine gave a different answer
– world was all in balance, but creatures used free will to rebel against God and thereby created evil
– tragic consequences to free will – many people have trouble attributing death of baby in a crib to Adam and Eve

Theologian John Hick said
– maybe Augustine’s idea of paradise is our ideas
– maybe a world in which souls are made is a very different paradise

Story of child who wanted a real baby who chose her / needed her
– if God is interested in soul making maybe this is God’s world
– that doesn’t go well with catastrophic suffering

Matthew 13

Here is another story Jesus told: “The Kingdom of Heaven is like a farmer who planted good seed in his field. But that night as the workers slept, his enemy came and planted weeds among the wheat, then slipped away. When the crop began to grow and produce grain, the weeds also grew.
“The farmer’s workers went to him and said, `Sir, the field where you planted that good seed is full of weeds! Where did they come from?’
“`An enemy has done this!’ the farmer exclaimed.
“`Should we pull out the weeds?’ they asked.
“`No,’ he replied, `you’ll uproot the wheat if you do. Let both grow together until the harvest. Then I will tell the harvesters to sort out the weeds, tie them into bundles, and burn them, and to put the wheat in the barn.'” (Matthew 13:24-30 NLT)

So every one of these gets redefined in and through Jesus Christ

This parable is often demonically interpreted: don’t pluck out any weeds
– ethical quietism

Properly understood this is is an authorization for us to raise our fists to heaven
– Psalms give us that permission
– as trusting children we can do this with our fathers

It is NOT our theology that God uses suffering of innocents to build character

God does not will the death of babies “an enemy has done this, he is my enemy as well as yours”

We don’t have the power to pluck out evil

There is wisdom give to us about what constitutes good and evil

Story of a friend who had polio

No, it is God’s enemy too It is not given to us to unwind string
Will it always be this way? No, God in Jesus Christ is even now battling the evil in the world

Museum to the Holocaust in Dachau
– tragic photograph inspires prayer: mother and daughter being marched to the gas chamber at Aushwitz
– holding her hand over her daughter’s eyes as she marches to the death chamber

Charles DeGualle
– parent with Yvonne of Ann with down’s syndrome
– she died Helen she was 12 years old
– mom couldn’t pull herself away from the grave
– at death, she is now like the others

In God’s time overcoming all the evil

God says, I do it in the way that looks like Jesus Christ
– wins the great victory of Easter
– oh death where is your sting?

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Focused on Shadows or “The Real Thing?”

There is so much irony in this verse! The Messiah of the world is right in front of the Jewish leaders, yet they are so focused on shadows (the rituals of Passover, which were designed to prepare the people for the Messiah) they can’t see Him.

How often in our churches and routines are we more focused on traditions or customs, instead of being awake to Jesus and His reality? Our relationship to Jesus is the key. Traditions, rituals and customs of the Church are designed to point us to Jesus, not distract us from that relationship.

John 18:28 NLT

“Jesus’ trial before Caiaphas ended in the early hours of the morning. Then he was taken to the headquarters of the Roman governor. His accusers didn’t go inside because it would defile them, and they wouldn’t be allowed to celebrate the Passover.”

See it at YouVersion.com:

http://bible.us/John18.28.NLT

Watch This: Why I Hate Religion, But Love Jesus

This is a powerful video and a great example of Christian Digital Storytelling. Over 20 million views to date. I’m sure this video has helped many people think about Jesus and his message of salvation in a different light.

Hat tip for Joe Davey for sharing this video during his Scoutmaster Minute a few weeks ago, in the context of how we are all called (as Scouts too) to “walk the walk” not just “talk the talk.”

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A Reminder to Rely on God

God calls us to rely on Him and His provision, not our own. In these verses Jesus challenges Phillip to realize his calling to rely on God, not himself.

John 6:5-6 NLT

“Jesus soon saw a huge crowd of people coming to look for him. Turning to Philip, he asked, “Where can we buy bread to feed all these people?” He was testing Philip, for he already knew what he was going to do.”

See it at YouVersion.com:

http://bible.us/John6.5.NLT

Antidotes for Conceit

These ideas were shared on March 25, 2012, by Mateen Elass. Mateen preached on these verses:

“Pilate then went back inside the palace, summoned Jesus and asked him, “Are you the king of the Jews?” “Is that your own idea,” Jesus asked, “or did others talk to you about me?” “Am I a Jew?” Pilate replied. “Your own people and chief priests handed you over to me. What is it you have done?” Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.” “You are a king, then!” said Pilate.
Jesus answered, “You say that I am a king. In fact, the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.” “What is truth?” retorted Pilate. With this he went out again to the Jews gathered there and said, “I find no basis for a charge against him. But it is your custom for me to release to you one prisoner at the time of the Passover. Do you want me to release ‘the king of the Jews’?” They shouted back, “No, not him! Give us Barabbas!” Now Barabbas had taken part in an uprising.” (John 18:33-40 NIV)

1-Regular worship of God: leads us from a critical spirit to praise of God
– spending daily time reconnecting with God, to maintain our focus on God

2- Develop a regular pattern of confession of sin

3- Honest friends
– worst thing ever is to surround ourselves by friends who just tell us what we want to hear – important for us to live in communities with each other, in small groups, to have accountability partners

Humility is the call of Jesus

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Reminders of the Standing Stones

God ordered the people of Israel to bring 12 stones out of the Jordan River & set them as “standing stones.” These would serve as a reminder of God’s mighty acts bringing the Israelites into the promised land as well as their need to always fear God who is holy.

My wife has just read a book titled “Grace” which I’ve started, it provides much more elaboration on these standing stones & their importance. I think the author suggests when we go through great trials, struggles & valleys in our lives, we too should erect standing stones to serve as reminders of how God saw us through these times. These are reminders for ourselves and for our children.

Joshua 4:21-24 NLT

“Then Joshua said to the Israelites, “In the future your children will ask, ‘What do these stones mean?’ Then you can tell them, ‘This is where the Israelites crossed the Jordan on dry ground.’ For the Lord your God dried up the river right before your eyes, and he kept it dry until you were all across, just as he did at the Red Sea when he dried it up until we had all crossed over. He did this so all the nations of the earth might know that the Lord’s hand is powerful, and so you might fear the Lord your God forever.””

See it at YouVersion.com:

http://bible.us/Josh4.21.NLT

Dust Bowl Drought Curse

I don’t think anyone with Biblical knowledge living in “the dust bowl” of the American Midwest in the 1930s could read these words and not wonder if they were autobiographical?

If preachers in the 1930s did attribute the drought and blights of that era to a curse from God, I wonder what specific examples of “the people turning away from God & not following His commands” they highlighted in sermons and prose?

Deuteronomy 28:22-24 NLT

“The Lord will strike you with wasting diseases, fever, and inflammation, with scorching heat and drought, and with blight and mildew. These disasters will pursue you until you die. The skies above will be as unyielding as bronze, and the earth beneath will be as hard as iron. The Lord will change the rain that falls on your land into powder, and dust will pour down from the sky until you are destroyed.”

See it at YouVersion.com:

http://bible.us/Deut28.22.NLT

Do Not Mislead the Blind

It is wrong for a leader to mislead a blind follower. Great responsibility is entrusted to those who lead is, and that trust is sacred. If that trust is violated, these verses from the Old Testament remind us the Israelites pronounced a curse on the person who misled the blind. This curse was pronounced at the direction of God.

Deuteronomy 27:18 NLT

“‘Cursed is anyone who leads a blind person astray on the road.’ And all the people will reply, ‘Amen.’”

See it at YouVersion.com:

http://bible.us/Deut27.18.NLT

Be Generous Providing for the Poor

God commanded the Israelites to be intentionally generous with their bounty so the poor could have food also. What is the 21st century analog to this? Giving regular financial gifts to our local food pantry? To our church deacon fund? Somewhere else?

These verses are about a lifestyle of generosity, specifically to provide for the poor. I am challenged by this because I know currently, I am not giving and doing enough in this regard.

Deuteronomy 24: 19-22 NLT

““When you are harvesting your crops and forget to bring in a bundle of grain from your field, don’t go back to get it. Leave it for the foreigners, orphans, and widows. Then the Lord your God will bless you in all you do. When you beat the olives from your olive trees, don’t go over the boughs twice. Leave the remaining olives for the foreigners, orphans, and widows. When you gather the grapes in your vineyard, don’t glean the vines after they are picked. Leave the remaining grapes for the foreigners, orphans, and widows. Remember that you were slaves in the land of Egypt. That is why I am giving you this command.”

See it at YouVersion.com:

http://bible.us/Deut24.19.NLT

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