Author: Wesley Fryer

Book: “Beyond the Worship Wars”

Pending train wrecks between generations
– used to call them traditional and contemporary when I started in1971 we were going through a fad called multimedia worship
– this kind of volatility doesn’t feel like a fad, deserves more of our attention

we will focus on things we need to hold on to

There is a history to this tension
– part of Vatican II
– constitution on the sacred litergy
– changed from Latin to English, made priest face the congregation
– new songs and spirituals

Protestants looked at these changes and smugly said, it’s about time

Catholics went back to the Bible to focus on what worship is

All Protestants have created new worship books
– in our generation we have ecumenically rediscovered the history of our church, at the point where the culture says, we are not interested in it

Do you hold on or go out after the culture looking for something else?

Forces causing this change

1- the digital revolution
– we are on a shakedown cruise a out what it means to bring digital stuff into worship
– we are in a highly experimental phase
– some people assume as soon as you get a video in, it’s better
– orality uses your imagination more
– radio uses your imagination more
– screens are here to stay, we need to be open to them

2- We have a loss of vocabulary in our culture
– many visitors to the church can’t decode language about stanzas and books

3- loss of institutionalization
– young people do not automatically assume the institution of the church is worth supporting
– have to rely more on dynamics and experience of worship than just James White in 1970s tried to map landscape of American worship
– Medieval Mass (inherited at Reformation)

Luther didn’t want to translate mass from Latin into German

From right
– Lutheran
– Reformed (us)
– anglican

Left nixing: Anabaptist

Middle:
– Methodist

White says we have 4 different worship styles
– mass
– high
– – free church (

Robert Weber redid the map in the 1990s

– liturgical (robes and read out of a book)
– traditional proestant: Overland Park Church of the Nazerene
– creative contemporary (seeker)
– praise and charismatic

Worship has now become different boutiques – examples of churches positioning themselves with their posture to the marketplace, not their lineage

Short list of things we should hold on to as Presbyterians
– “service is gathered around the intrusive Word of God” (we worship because we are summoned)
– I use a beach ball with adolescents to show 2- Presbyterian worship has a healthy fear of idolatry – the human mind left to its own devices is a factory of idols

Baals of the world always provide good religious experiences
– Baerkoff says this
– God does not always move us, and everything that moves us is not God
– sometimes churches build their services around patriotism or nationalism
– we have a great nation, but our nation is not God
– our family is not God either

Calvinists are always nervous about substituting something for Jesus
– our biggest idolatry threat is the “personality plus” of our worship leaders

3- A middle way on the sacraments
– part of the reformed tradition from the beginning
– on one side, emotionally held idea that if the pastor says the right words, God will act toward you (people are passive)
– most Protestants say it all happened at Cavalry, sacraments are audio visual reminders
– that view can hold that it is your responsibility
– Scots confession says anathema: carves out the middle way

Reformed understanding: if you come I will meet you at the table
– if we don’t come to the fount we can’t meet God
– this is a middle way

4- connection between worship inside the house of God and mission outside
– In worship this IS the real world
– unmasks illusions of what is happening outside
– should be a connection between what we do and pray for

Intrinsic connection between worship and mission

5- Worship is a corporate experience
– there is an ethic about worship

I hate the hymn, “I Come to the Garden Alone”

We belong to each other in baptism
– it is not about individuality, it is about community

John Carr as a guest preacher, 7 year old asked after Baptism where is that child I’m responsible

Things churches had in common I studied who are vibrant and have not lost their liturgical roots:

1- all recovering the drama which is intrinsically there in Christian worship
– making drama visible and audible
– passive, watching congregation that judges the performance is not worship
– Christian worship is like community theater where everyone is part of the cast

First act in drama of worship is “The Gathering”

Think at each point of worship: “What are we really doing here?” and how can we amplify the audibility and visibility of that?

2- all these churches were musically eclectic – we can choose from Bach to rock
– these churches didn’t draw a vertical line, they drew a horizontal line
– over time our church will have a broad representation of the repertoire of the church, and it will not be “constituency pleasing”
– over time that kills worship in your place
– diversity in music leads to reclaim the great word of ministry

3- Palpable experience of the mystery of God
– this is the hardest
– worship committee cannot make a motion for that on Thursday night
– in our culture some beautiful placement of silence can do this
– can be in prayers If you listen to prayers there is often not a lot of praying (conversation with God)
– more often they are people talking in stain glass window voices
– story of prayer for “Bosnia, the former Yugoslavia”

This is not the Rotary club gathered with a hymn book

Intentional about hospitality to strangers

Sometimes ushers in our congregations are the people who have drawn the short straw

Some congregations appoint pew captains to greet visitors

Church in Houston that has 16 staff members working in media
– service is broadcast quality
– worship is not supposed to be a high quality television program

Adam Hamilton, pastor in KC
– used photo of excavation of ancient Corinth: good use of media

We tend to confuse evangelism and worship
– in ancient church you had to prepare for 3 years before coming into full worship
– Catechumens had to leave at one point in the service http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catechumen

Difference in turning worship into a spectacle of evangelism, and making our worship services welcoming to all

What we are doing on Sunday morning is more than just sharing a message

Worst things we can do is divide up our services along denominational lines

A good Christian hymn is one that makes you a better Christian at the end of it

We are going to have stop talking stewardship as support of bricks and mortar
– people born before 1948 respond to that
– we need to support dynamic mission of the church and focus on stewardship as a response to Jesus, We have to go over there to the apartment building to serve the needs of people “out there”
– not enough to just make our worship service dazzling with better lights and music

Story of friend who started evangelism career in Watts (LA) throwing out tracts – learned evangelism doesn’t start until you get out of the car

Congregational song is the musical focus

Choir has 2 jobs
– support Congregational song
– sing tougher music on my behalf

Never do they perform for my appreciation

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We have heard many question the validity of Christ’s resurrection in past years

Phil 3: I want to know Christ and understand his suffering

I want to know Christ and experience the mighty power that raised him from the dead. I want to suffer with him, sharing in his death, so that one way or another I will experience the resurrection from the dead! (Philippians 3:10, 11 NLT)

Paul really bears his soul in a personal way here:

What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice. For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ, According to my earnest expectation and my hope, that in nothing I shall be ashamed, but that with all boldness, as always, so now also Christ shall be magnified in my body, whether it be by life, or by death. For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain. But if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not. For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better: Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you. And having this confidence, I know that I shall abide and continue with you all for your furtherance and joy of faith; That your rejoicing may be more abundant in Jesus Christ for me by my coming to you again. (Philippians 1:18-26 KJV)

Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. (Philippians 2:6-11 KJV)

In the ancient world to worship and honor someone who was crucified on the cross was an absurdity and an abomination
– reflected in a historical quotation from Minuscius Felix, a Christian apologist 200-240 CE

Honor and shame were very important in that culture

Paul was concerned the gospel itself would be shamed and disgraced

Roman gods were seen to give Rome its power, it you go against this power structure is to go against all Roman authority

The way this letter flows with many participles ,it does appear to be poetry and maybe even a hymn to Christ

The world Paul lived in rejected idea God would ever lower himself and take human form
– in Islam as well as Jewish teaching, the divine reality does not become a human being

The invisible world (of divine reality) is seen as “more real” for Romans, but gods would never become human Many of the Roman rulers like to portray themselves as god manifest

54-68 AD was reign of Nero, during time most of Paul’s letters were written – Nero would dress up as a pauper and wander about at night to see how people would respond to him since he was venerated as a god

Verse here is the only place in the Bible where we read/find one distinct member of the triune God making a decision:

Though he was God,
he did not think of equality with God
as something to cling to. (Philippians 2:6 NLT)

These words at the start of Phil 2 are some of the most anti-Roman words in the entire Bible, because they put aside the issues of honor and status:

Don’t be selfish; don’t try to impress others. Be humble, thinking of others as better than yourselves. Don’t look out only for your own interests, but take an interest in others, too.
You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had. (Philippians 2:3-5 NLT)

Exhortation here is to get n God’s energy train, invite Him to work through us:

What I’m getting at, friends, is that you should simply keep on doing what you’ve done from the beginning. When I was living among you, you lived in responsive obedience. Now that I’m separated from you, keep it up. Better yet, redouble your efforts. Be energetic in your life of salvation, reverent and sensitive before God. That energy is God’s energy, an energy deep within you, God himself willing and working at what will give him the most pleasure. (Philippians 2:12, 13 MSG)

Oscar Coleman: evil seems like a caged animal, worse than vet but aware that it has already lost

Status elites were seen throughout Roman society
– clothing worn, patterns of clothing showed success

This is not God the Father rewarding God the son
– all charges of child abuse for Jesus’s crucifixion on the cross by God is unfounded

Paul says there is no slave or free, that was revolutionary at the time
– getting rid of the slave class as a proposal against the entire grain of that society Senate declared Julius Caesar as a son of God
– this happened with other Caesar’s as well

No examples of ancient world cults of a God sacrificing himself for the world, and that sacrifice absorbing evil
– Christianity unique in this way

Jesus Christ absolutely humiliated and debased: no one in the Roman world would have anything to do with a being in such a condition

God’s self giving is the highest status of all
– we are called to align ourselves with those who are suffering now, to join the sufferings of Christ now

Picture of cathedral in Poland (?) showing Christ receiving crown of thrones as crown of glory

Paul doesn’t separate Christ’s death and suffering on the cross from his resurrection. We need both to understand and know God.

I want to know Christ and experience the mighty power that raised him from the dead. I want to suffer with him, sharing in his death, so that one way or another I will experience the resurrection from the dead! (Philippians 3:10, 11 NLT)

Temptation of the church throughout the ages is to go to extremes: focus on needing more resurrection power and ignoring the suffering on the cross… Or focusing on separating from the world and its suffering…

We now have this light shining in our hearts, but we ourselves are like fragile clay jars containing this great treasure. This makes it clear that our great power is from God, not from ourselves.
We are pressed on every side by troubles, but we are not crushed. We are perplexed, but not driven to despair. We are hunted down, but never abandoned by God. We get knocked down, but we are not destroyed. Through suffering, our bodies continue to share in the death of Jesus so that the life of Jesus may also be seen in our bodies.
Yes, we live under constant danger of death because we serve Jesus, so that the life of Jesus will be evident in our dying bodies. So we live in the face of death, but this has resulted in eternal life for you. (2 Corinthians 4:7-12 NLT)

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Keynote Tom Long
Has authored or co-authored 17 books
Baylor calls him one of the best 10 preachers in America

“on being a Christian” By Hans Kuhn
– being a Christian is a very hard thing – little Presbyterians are not growing up to be big Presbyterians as much as they used to

What are the Christians with the megaphones saying?

MY THOUGHT: YOUTUBE PRESENTS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US ALL TO HAVE A MEGAPHONE

Story of earthquake in Lisbon Portugal Nov 1. 1755?
– 9:40 am all saints day
10,000 – 50,000 people died that day
– changed the way people thought about God and suffering

Why Lisbon: 1st major world disaster after “The Enlightenment”
– before this, people during a disaster would ask “What is God trying to teach us about?”
– most people realized something was wrong about the way we thought about God

Newton said there was slippage in his formulas

La Pleias wrote about the creation but didn’t mention the creator
– Napoleon asked him
– he said “I have no need for that hypothesis”

Leibniz – said God imagined every possibility of all permutations and picked the best of all of them
– Lisbon cured people from that we of thinking

Problem we have all thought about: There is a God, He is loving and compassionate, he is all powerful, there is innocent suffering
– some say that is a philosophical and mathematical problem which demands a philosophical and mathematical answer

Is God good?
– is God all powerful

Louis Smeads wrote in “The Christian Century”
– story of losing a child together

The problem of innocent suffering
– a challenge to rethink our theology

Rabbi Kushner’s book “Why Do Bad Things Happen to Good People”
– he rejects “the bromides” that people often say at times like this
– Kushner interpreted that verse that God is doing the best he can, but he can’t handle the power of evil
– he rejects the phrase “God is all powerful”
– cost of that is very high – Kushner says evil comes from Fate (that makes a 2nd God called Fte)

St Augustine gave a different answer
– world was all in balance, but creatures used free will to rebel against God and thereby created evil
– tragic consequences to free will – many people have trouble attributing death of baby in a crib to Adam and Eve

Theologian John Hick said
– maybe Augustine’s idea of paradise is our ideas
– maybe a world in which souls are made is a very different paradise

Story of child who wanted a real baby who chose her / needed her
– if God is interested in soul making maybe this is God’s world
– that doesn’t go well with catastrophic suffering

Matthew 13

Here is another story Jesus told: “The Kingdom of Heaven is like a farmer who planted good seed in his field. But that night as the workers slept, his enemy came and planted weeds among the wheat, then slipped away. When the crop began to grow and produce grain, the weeds also grew.
“The farmer’s workers went to him and said, `Sir, the field where you planted that good seed is full of weeds! Where did they come from?’
“`An enemy has done this!’ the farmer exclaimed.
“`Should we pull out the weeds?’ they asked.
“`No,’ he replied, `you’ll uproot the wheat if you do. Let both grow together until the harvest. Then I will tell the harvesters to sort out the weeds, tie them into bundles, and burn them, and to put the wheat in the barn.'” (Matthew 13:24-30 NLT)

So every one of these gets redefined in and through Jesus Christ

This parable is often demonically interpreted: don’t pluck out any weeds
– ethical quietism

Properly understood this is is an authorization for us to raise our fists to heaven
– Psalms give us that permission
– as trusting children we can do this with our fathers

It is NOT our theology that God uses suffering of innocents to build character

God does not will the death of babies “an enemy has done this, he is my enemy as well as yours”

We don’t have the power to pluck out evil

There is wisdom give to us about what constitutes good and evil

Story of a friend who had polio

No, it is God’s enemy too It is not given to us to unwind string
Will it always be this way? No, God in Jesus Christ is even now battling the evil in the world

Museum to the Holocaust in Dachau
– tragic photograph inspires prayer: mother and daughter being marched to the gas chamber at Aushwitz
– holding her hand over her daughter’s eyes as she marches to the death chamber

Charles DeGualle
– parent with Yvonne of Ann with down’s syndrome
– she died Helen she was 12 years old
– mom couldn’t pull herself away from the grave
– at death, she is now like the others

In God’s time overcoming all the evil

God says, I do it in the way that looks like Jesus Christ
– wins the great victory of Easter
– oh death where is your sting?

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Hat tip for Joe Davey for sharing this video during his Scoutmaster Minute a few weeks ago, in the context of how we are all called (as Scouts too) to “walk the walk” not just “talk the talk.”

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“Pilate then went back inside the palace, summoned Jesus and asked him, “Are you the king of the Jews?” “Is that your own idea,” Jesus asked, “or did others talk to you about me?” “Am I a Jew?” Pilate replied. “Your own people and chief priests handed you over to me. What is it you have done?” Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.” “You are a king, then!” said Pilate.
Jesus answered, “You say that I am a king. In fact, the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.” “What is truth?” retorted Pilate. With this he went out again to the Jews gathered there and said, “I find no basis for a charge against him. But it is your custom for me to release to you one prisoner at the time of the Passover. Do you want me to release ‘the king of the Jews’?” They shouted back, “No, not him! Give us Barabbas!” Now Barabbas had taken part in an uprising.” (John 18:33-40 NIV)

1-Regular worship of God: leads us from a critical spirit to praise of God
– spending daily time reconnecting with God, to maintain our focus on God

2- Develop a regular pattern of confession of sin

3- Honest friends
– worst thing ever is to surround ourselves by friends who just tell us what we want to hear – important for us to live in communities with each other, in small groups, to have accountability partners

Humility is the call of Jesus

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